tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post4398232995847674866..comments2023-10-26T02:05:49.532-07:00Comments on The Culinary Historian: A Brief History of the National School Lunch ProgramDeb Duchonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14551448584234460717noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-16368968653866649332010-08-06T15:58:02.444-07:002010-08-06T15:58:02.444-07:00Very interesting, especially the link between secu...Very interesting, especially the link between security and lunch room food, the historic goals and the current sad result.<br /><br />Deb, I am the Woodlands person you know! Thanks for following my little blog. I surely love yours. So very loaded with intriguing information.Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14817072428144481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-70601163853634862222010-08-06T09:22:03.391-07:002010-08-06T09:22:03.391-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ellenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14817072428144481896noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-71200773431297858252010-08-02T14:05:41.504-07:002010-08-02T14:05:41.504-07:00To make matters even MORE confusing, Oklahoma legi...To make matters even MORE confusing, Oklahoma legislators made watermelon our state vegetable. . . .S Mitchellnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-80623001013713705022010-08-02T12:02:58.201-07:002010-08-02T12:02:58.201-07:00Thank you for sharing!Thank you for sharing!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10605202466534621868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-3511046221489003502010-08-01T18:51:39.473-07:002010-08-01T18:51:39.473-07:00Steve - You've been watching Alton Brown, have...Steve - You've been watching Alton Brown, haven't you? Well. Alton's a smart guy, but this time he goofed. <br /><br />You know how a word can have more than one meaning depending on the context? "Fruit" is one of those words. In botany, "fruit" is a technical term which means the part of a plant that contains seeds. It has nothing to do with edibility. Poison ivy has fruit - and it, too, is a berry ("berry is another technical term for the single "fruit" that is formed from a cluster of flowers as opposed to a single flower. Again, nothing to do with edibility, flavor, nutritional value or human food in any sense.)<br /><br />Within the culinary context, however, "fruit" refers to an edible plant part that is sweet . Most of the foods we call fruit contain seeds, but there are exceptions, such as rhubarb. <br /><br />There are other foods that we eat as vegetables that are, in the botanical sense, "fruit". Some examples are eggplant, green beans, and cucumbers. They all contain seeds. But you don't hear them being called "fruit", except by botanists. <br /><br />The confusion comes from a lawsuit that was filed in the aftermath of the Civil War. Produce buyers in the North were buying tomatoes from farmers in Bermuda. But Southern farmers had plenty of tomatoes to sell. Congress, in an attempt at healing the country, imposed a tariff on imported vegetables, to encourage the produce buyers to purchase domestically grown tomatoes and other veggies. <br /><br />But the produce buyers were still mad at the South and didn't want to do it. They came up with the argument that tomatoes didn't qualify for the tariff because they were actually fruit (not subject to the tariff). The case wound its way through the court system - all the way to the Supreme Court of the United States. In 1893, the Supreme Court declared that tomatoes were vegetables. <br /><br />You would think this would lay the argument to rest, but it didn't. It seemed to catch hold of the public imagination. Botanists confuse the issue because still like to say that tomatoes are fruit (and, to them, they are). And writers are notorious plagiarists and lousy fact-checkers. Story after story has perpetuated the sorry line that tomatoes are "actually a fruit." This has been going on for more than 100 years. <br /><br />From a nutritional point of view, the difference between fruits and vegetables has only to do with fructose. They are both high in vitamins, minerals, antioxidants, fiber, and other good things. The plant food that we categorize as fruit just happens to be sweet. USDA classifies tomatoes as vegetables, too. See: http://www.mypyramid.gov/<br /><br />Personally, I think the words "fruit" and "vegetable" should be banished from the culinary lexicon. They are so confusing as to be meaningless. What is important is that they are all "plant foods" We can talk about "sweet plants", "starchy plants" and "leafy plants". But that's another blog post. <br /><br />Hope this helps.Deb Duchonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14551448584234460717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-59455229871039040092010-08-01T14:59:44.384-07:002010-08-01T14:59:44.384-07:00Well, the United States Supreme Court did declare ...Well, the United States Supreme Court did declare the tomato to be a vegetable...<br /><br />As for Japanese school lunches, there's a couple of interesting points. Students frequently serve the food. On the other hand, I read somewhere that Japanese school sometimes serve whale meat, not by choice, but because of the whale lobby there.<br /><br />Maybe, someday, our students will cook and serve school lunches for one another - it would save money and maybe help our youth learn to cook.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16013155161643328314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5972382455071656209.post-84607366944252429802010-08-01T14:27:13.383-07:002010-08-01T14:27:13.383-07:00deb help me- please-
I know that a tomato is actu...deb help me- please-<br /><br />I know that a tomato is actually a fruit, a berry to be more exact- we all refer to it as a veg -- but help me understand your objection to calling it a fruit- i'm open to having my mind changedstevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10082841167220848807noreply@blogger.com